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An idea for a future all-star season theme to explore is Old School vs. In Survivor: Winners at War, the more recent, or new school players, systematically picked off the winners from earlier seasons of the game. The newer players didn’t seem as if they wanted to work with some of the more prominent legends of the game or let them. The difference between old school and new school in a nutshell: Old School: The players are given every benefit of the doubt. Every ruling and interpretation is made in their favor. They have planned for an hour, coming up with a sort of Rube Goldberg type scheme to do something. They go into the dungeon and things look like they will work.
'new school' approaches to poker strategy have evolved over the years. Phil Galfond and Matt Berkey discuss the current state of the debate. That frustration leads to an extra lack of respect for the poker skill of the 'Old School,' and a desire to 'prove' our skill. (By the way, each generation overestimates their edge vs. Their counterparts.) You can tell the New School to “get over it,” but you have to understand that they will never stop wanting their skill to be recognized.
So much has changed in DJing in the last generation – so for a bit of fun, we thought we’d compile an “Old School vs New School Disc Jockey” list.
To be clear, here at Digital DJ Tips we think DJing is best as it’s done right here, right now – so we’re not judging modern DJs with this list, not by any means.
(Of course, some things will be seen as better or worse depending on who you are and where you stand, but there’s frankly little worse than having to listen to a “it was great in ’88!” bore – right?)
So anyway, have a look – we hope our list makes you smile, and we’d love you to share your “old school vs new school disc jockey” ideas in the comments!
Old school vs new school: 25 things that have changed…
Old school: Disc jockey
New school: DJ
New school: DJ
Old school: Records
New school: Digital files
New school: Digital files
Old school: Manual beatmixing
New school: Sync
New school: Sync
Old school: Music ownership
New school: Cloud & streaming
New school: Cloud & streaming
Old school: Pester DJ for title, locate vinyl at record store, practise mixing new track
New school: Shazam, Beatport, sync
New school: Shazam, Beatport, sync
Old school: Record crates
New school: USB drive
New school: USB drive
Old school: DJ flight case
New school: DJ backpack
New school: DJ backpack
Old school: Records in hold luggage
New school: Controller in hand luggage
New school: Controller in hand luggage
Old school: DJing all night
New school: 45-minute set
New school: 45-minute set
Old school: Promo vinyl in the mail
New school: DJ edits from digital music pools
New school: DJ edits from digital music pools
Old school: DJ hidden in corner
New school: DJ star of show
New school: DJ star of show
Old school: Jealously guarding record titles
New school: Everyone Shazam-ing your tracks
New school: Everyone Shazam-ing your tracks
Old school: Mixtapes
New school: Spotify playlists
New school: Spotify playlists
Old school: DJing was enough
New school: Have to produce music too
New school: Have to produce music too
Old school: Club
New school: Festival
New school: Festival
Old school: 2 copies of same track
New school: Own re-edits
New school: Own re-edits
Old school: Sorting out your crates
New school: Sorting out your playlists
New school: Sorting out your playlists
Old school: Watching the record grooves
New school: Watching the waveforms
New school: Watching the waveforms
Old school: Needle skipping
New school: Software glitching
New school: Software glitching
Old school: Badly pressed vinyl
New school: Low bitrate MP3s
New school: Low bitrate MP3s
Old school: “Sorry, I don’t have it”
New school: “No, I won’t play it from your phone!”
New school: “No, I won’t play it from your phone!”
Old school: Lighters in the air
New school: Phones in the air
New school: Phones in the air
Old school: Smoking in clubs
New school: Social media sharing in clubs
New school: Social media sharing in clubs
Old school: Running out of music to play
New school: Too much music to play
New school: Too much music to play
Old school: Learning from a friend
New school:Learning from a video course
New school:Learning from a video course
Have your say…
So that’s what we could come up with in the office. But do you agree? Disagree? Have you got something to add? Remember, we’d love you to share your “old school vs new school disc jockey” ideas in the comments!
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In the early-to-mid 2000s, professional poker players were larger than life. These titans of the game supposedly printed money on the felt, and for the most part we believed this because we only saw them through one lens — ESPN.
Were we duped? Sure, but the Worldwide Leader had a product to push, and we as fans welcomed it with open arms. For the first time ever, poker was widely accepted. It was almost considered a sport, and the players we saw on television practiced and trained the hardest, making them close to unbeatable.
Hell, if there weren’t luck involved, they’d probably win every time.
We knew very little about the first batch of televised pros aside from the fact that they were supposedly good at poker. If you read Super System then you knew a little about Doyle Brunson, but apart from Texas Dolly, we basically knew this:
We knew that Daniel Negreanu was “Kid Poker.” We knew that Barry Greenstein gave all his money away to charity. We knew that Mike Matusow had a big mouth. We knew that Chris Ferguson looked like Jesus and was good at math. We knew that Andy Bloch was good at math, too.
We knew that Daniel Negreanu was “Kid Poker.” We knew that Barry Greenstein gave all his money away to charity. We knew that Mike Matusow had a big mouth. We knew that Chris Ferguson looked like Jesus and was good at math. We knew that Andy Bloch was good at math, too.
We knew that David “Chip” Reese was a legend, and so too was Stu Ungar, before he passed. We knew that Johnny Chan won back-to-back Main Events. We knew that Howard Lederer was a professor, and that Annie Duke was his sister. We knew that Jennifer Harman was a woman, as well.
We knew that Phil Ivey was one of the most feared players in the game (and a Steve Francis fan). And, most importantly, we knew that Chris Moneymaker was the 2003 World Series of Poker Main Event champion.
Those of us outside of the poker industry — which was very small at the time — didn’t know about the negatives. We didn’t know about the drugs, the women, or the sports betting. All we saw were legends of the game, winning bracelet after bracelet.
Fast-forward to 2012, where social media is king. Phil Hellmuth has the most unique hits in the last seven days on Hendon Mob, but not because he’s an old-school player. It’s because he won a side event at the L.A. Poker Classic — which would’ve never been covered to this extent a decade ago — and tweeted about it to his 115,000 followers. Three weeks ago, when Jason Somerville admitted to being a homosexual, he too had the most unique hits on Hendon Mob. In fact, according to Wicked Chops Poker, the traffic to his page increased by 3,049 percent.
The times they are a-changin’.
Unlike a decade ago, nothing goes unnoticed in the poker world today. If you make a mistake, you’ll never hear the end of it. If you win, or do something positive, you’ll be showered with praise until you make a mistake. You can’t hide behind your results — the margin for error is tremendously slim, and we can always find new heroes.
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And we have. Just look at Tom Dwan, Phil Galfond and Jason Mercier.
This isn’t to say that the old school pros are suddenly undesirable (well, they are if they have any connections with Ultimate Bet, Full Tilt Poker, or have outstanding gambling debts), but the old school ways are no longer widely accepted. What used to be taboo is now standard, and vice versa. This holds true from complex issues like staking and backing to simple issues like showdown etiquette. Previously, nobody talked openly about who they were backing or how much makeup they were in. Likewise, in the past, when two players reached a showdown, if one player said something to the tune of “you win” or “you got it,” the other player would simply show their hand to be polite. If you showed your hand today, you wouldn’t be praised for being polite, you’d be flamed by your peers for (1) not protecting yourself from an angle, and/or (2) passing up free information.
Should every little issue become fodder for the forums? In a perfect world, no, but this is an imperfect world where information moves a mile a minute. Self-branding, image awareness, and damage control are more important than ever. Players who are more open tend to appeal more to fans. Look at Negreanu and Hellmuth. Nobody has transitioned as well as those two from the old school to the new, and neither player has won a bracelet since 2008. Results help (Hellmuth obviously had an amazing 2011 WSOP), but marketing is king. Negreanu's video blog is now a must-watch each week because his opinion really matters to us.
While the new-schoolers represent a more open and trustworthy future for the game, not all of them are perfect, either. There are a handful of very notable multi-accounters and scammers lurking around the industry — some of whom have been forgiven, while others remain shunned. Hopefully, as we move forward, these players will remain clean, and as they become old-school players, we won’t have to feel like we were duped again.
There is no more hiding in the back of the saloon, or in the backroom at the Bellagio. Everything is public — the TwoPlusTwo police are on every corner — and players should always be wary of the decisions they make. One mistake can change everything.
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